{"id":11612,"date":"2019-09-02T16:29:43","date_gmt":"2019-09-02T14:29:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.satrapov.net\/mysst\/?page_id=11612"},"modified":"2023-02-25T20:26:47","modified_gmt":"2023-02-25T20:26:47","slug":"romances","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/detailed-reviews-n-z\/neverwinter-nights\/hordes-of-the-underdark\/romances\/","title":{"rendered":"Romances"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"top\" \/><a id=\"Nathyrra\" href=\"#nathyrra\">Nathyrra<\/a><br \/>\n<a id=\"Aribeth\" href=\"#aribeth\">Aribeth<\/a><br \/>\n<a id=\"Valen\" href=\"#valen\">Valen<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">If you were disappointed with the \u2018romances\u2019 in the original campaign and the complete lack thereof in <em>Shadows of Undrentide<\/em>, I\u2019ve got good news for you. BioWare has decided to make an effort and produce some decent romance content, more along the lines of what was available in <em>Baldur&#8217;s Gate II<\/em> instead (well, mostly) of the \u201clet\u2019s just see what happens later\u201d from the OC. Once again, male characters have more options than female ones, being able to choose between Nathyrra and Aribeth (again with the elven fetish, BW!), but that doesn\u2019t bother me too much, since the single option for female characters just so happens to be really good this time around. Unlike Anomen or Aarin. In fact, I would say it\u2019s actually better than both of the options for male characters.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a name=\"nathyrra\"><\/a><strong>Nathyrra: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/?attachment_id=11620\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11620\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-11620\" title=\"Dusky\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Dusky-201x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"168\" height=\"250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Dusky-201x300.jpg 201w, https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Dusky.jpg 256w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 168px) 100vw, 168px\" \/><\/a><\/strong>The better and more harmoniously developed of the two romance options for a male character, although I\u2019m surprised at how\u2026tame it all is. Even if she is now Good, Nathyrra is still a drow and retains some of the typical female drow dominance, especially in her response to early flirting attempts. She even has cheeky innuendo at her command and states that she has had many partners before, in accordance with typical drow promiscuity. And yet\u2026she never even kisses the protagonist. I kid you not: all he gets is a hug, and that only because she\u2019s feeling cold. The culmination of the romance is sweet, but would it have really killed the writers to put a bit more passion into it? It almost seems out of character. Nathyrra is strong, self-assured and has a bit of a temper on her: where does that all go? I understand that the circumstances of Chapter 3 are rather distressing and conducive to her focussing on her past and her regrets, but it all feels strangely half-hearted. Nathyrra acknowledges it herself, and it\u2019s nowhere near as bad as, say, Aerie, but there is a big difference between her initial self and her Chapter 3 self. There is something you can do about it, however\u2026Anyway, it\u2019s not a bad romance (ra-ra-ra-a-aaahh), especially by comparison with Aribeth and the OC options, but I can\u2019t help feeling that it could have been better with a little more effort.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a name=\"aribeth\"><\/a><strong>Aribeth: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/?attachment_id=11621\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11621\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-11621\" title=\"Easily swayed\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Easily-swayed-201x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"168\" height=\"250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Easily-swayed-201x300.jpg 201w, https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Easily-swayed.jpg 256w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 168px) 100vw, 168px\" \/><\/a><\/strong>Ugh\u2026Why? Why did the writers feel obliged to saddle us not only with this character, but with yet another half-arsed attempt at a \u2018romance\u2019 with her? Understanding that her situation with Fenthick probably made things a little bit too awkward in the OC, they decided to invent a justification: at Mephistopheles\u2019 prompting, Aribeth realised that she never really loved him. Well, isn\u2019t that just incredibly convenient? Apparently, she never much fancied the OC protagonist either, because there\u2019s no mention of him at all, if your character did romance her. Girl, you certainly get around. Heck, your protagonist can even end up with both her <em>and<\/em> Nathyrra if he&#8217;s persuasive enough.&nbsp;In spite of all that and due to being available very late in the expansion, Aribeth has very little content, and even less of it romance-specific. You can basically acknowledge mutual attraction (either lust if she\u2019s Evil or the possibility of love at some point down the line if she\u2019s Good) and\u2026that\u2019s it. No one wonders whether she\u2019ll be able to regain corporeality and, if not, what kind of future your protagonist can have with her. I mean\u2026does no one find that it strains credibility to be able to romance a ghost? No? Just me? I mean, just imagine the frustration. If you were going to bring her back, at least make the effort of fleshing some content out for her (pun fully intended).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a name=\"valen\"><\/a><strong>Valen: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/?attachment_id=11622\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11622\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-11622\" title=\"Intense\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Intense-273x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"228\" height=\"250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Intense-273x300.png 273w, https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Intense.png 299w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 228px) 100vw, 228px\" \/><\/a><\/strong>Ladies, you\u2019re in for a treat. Valen was written by the same author as <em>Dragon Age II<\/em>\u2019s Fenris, and it definitely shows, but, overall, he feels like a better-rounded character to me. Yes, he has broody tendencies, but he actually comes from a different plane of existence and has had trouble adjusting to how things work on Toril, with some unfortunate consequences. Moreover, his demonic blood isn\u2019t mentioned just for \u2018mysterious tormented stranger\u2019 points, but is an actual liability beyond his control. And yet, all things considered, he\u2019s remarkably well-adjusted, for someone who has undergone both slavery and torture, and has to make constant efforts to keep his primal impulses down (grr\u2026). And there\u2019s a much happier, gentler character underneath all that, should you find a way to remove the taint. Valen starts out gruff and suspicious, but all it takes is a few well-placed flirts \u2013 which make him adorably flustered \u2013 and good will in helping the Seer to get him to mellow out. Despite his intimidating appearance and his difficult past, Valen is a real gentleman and even has a well-hidden cheeky side. Obviously, BW couldn\u2019t help themselves and gave him a backstory whereby the woman he loved met an untimely demise at the hands of his demonic master. Still, despite that, he comes to care deeply for your protagonist, has a particularly heartfelt confession scene, and his romance has a more natural progression than the other two.<\/p>\n<div class=\"csRow\">\n<div class=\"csColumn\" style=\"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; float: left; width: 38%;\" data-csstartpoint=\"0\" data-csendpoint=\"365\" data-cswidth=\"38.0%\" data-csid=\"5a3951ce-db01-153b-9d35-c5190a04be00\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/detailed-reviews-n-z\/neverwinter-nights\/hordes-of-the-underdark\/characters\/\"><strong>&lt;&lt; Back to: Characters (HotU)<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"csColumnGap\" style=\"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; float: left; width: 24.8%;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-content\/plugins\/advanced-wp-columns\/assets\/js\/plugins\/views\/img\/1x1-pixel.png\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"csColumn\" style=\"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; float: left; width: 37.2%;\" data-csstartpoint=\"603\" data-csendpoint=\"960\" data-cswidth=\"37.2%\" data-csid=\"0a718167-15f3-e9d4-830c-2dda4b82cef3\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/detailed-reviews-n-z\/neverwinter-nights\/hordes-of-the-underdark\/classes\/\"><strong>Forward to: Classes (HotU) &gt;&gt;<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nathyrra Aribeth Valen If you were disappointed with the \u2018romances\u2019 in the original campaign and the complete lack thereof in Shadows of Undrentide, I\u2019ve got good news for you. BioWare has decided to make an effort and produce some decent &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/detailed-reviews-n-z\/neverwinter-nights\/hordes-of-the-underdark\/romances\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":11585,"menu_order":2,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"tags":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11612"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11612"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11612\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12749,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11612\/revisions\/12749"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/11585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11612"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.grafskaya.club\/mysst\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11612"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}